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Multiple genres?

Post by peert » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:10 am

Trying out the editor ... is there any specific support to manage multiple genres (ID3 v2.4)? It seems like the field is a plain text field where you enter free form text using whatever delimiter you prefer?

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Post by WilliamExhip » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:13 pm

I have started added multiple genres to my tags. Unfortunately, I find that Muso selects according to some method - is it the last in the list? just one of the genres to display for the album as a whole and compares that to the "classical" genres list to determine if the album is classical. This means that even if the album is tagged with a classical genre, if any one of the genres is not in the classical list, there is a risk it will be wrongly classified. E.g. I am including instrument type in the genre list and clearly, say, "piano" could be either classical or not so I dont want to include it in the classical list. Even if the genre "classical" which is in the list is included, the album is treated as "piano" and not shown as classical.
Hope that makes sense

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Post by aacton » Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:24 am

WilliamExhip wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:13 pm I have started added multiple genres to my tags. Unfortunately, I find that Muso selects according to some method - is it the last in the list? just one of the genres to display for the album as a whole and compares that to the "classical" genres list to determine if the album is classical. This means that even if the album is tagged with a classical genre, if any one of the genres is not in the classical list, there is a risk it will be wrongly classified. E.g. I am including instrument type in the genre list and clearly, say, "piano" could be either classical or not so I dont want to include it in the classical list. Even if the genre "classical" which is in the list is included, the album is treated as "piano" and not shown as classical.
Hope that makes sense
The ID3 GENRE tag is freeform text (30 characters if the limit I believe). After some research in to this subject (some years ago) I choose to implement my own GENRE schema. As an example, I classify classical music by ONE item selected from one following list (refer below).

This multi-tier schema allows me to have pseudo multiple genre tags, however I only need elect ONE item. :)

Searching is also easier... because I know a genre search for (e.g.) Classical-Guitar will show me all the CDs with that music type. With my own schema, I know I can reliably filter out specific music (rather than use the near useless existing genre definitions that evolved over the decades).


For classical CDs I pick ONE from the following (e.g. Classical-Guitar).
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GROUP 1
----------
Classical-Cello
Classical-Clarinet
Classical-Flute
Classical-Fortepiano
Classical-Guitar
Classical-Harpsichord
Classical-Horn
Classical-Lute
Classical-Mandolin
Classical-Oboe
Classical-Organ
Classical-Percussion
Classical-Piano
Classical-Theorbo
Classical-Timpani
Classical-Trumpet
Classical-Viol (Viola da gamba)
Classical-Viola
Classical-Violin
Classical-Xylophone

----------
GROUP 2
----------
Classical-Cantata
Classical-Chamber
Classical-Concerto
Classical-Concerto (Piano)
Classical-Opera
Classical-Oratorio
Classical-Quartet
Classical-Sonata
Classical-Sonata (Piano)
Classical-Symphony
Classical-Symphony (Piano)

----------
GROUP 3
----------
Classical-Medieval Era
Classical-Renaissance Era
Classical-Baroque Era
Classical-Classical Era
Classical-Romantic Era
Classical-Modern Era
Classical-Postmodern Era


I have similar multi-tier genre lists for the music types I am interested in, e.g. Rock, Jazz, Popular, Electronic and this system works well for my needs. Thankfully the ID3 schema is freeform :)

Cheers, Andrew

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